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  • Vilshofen an der Donau (Germany Bavaria)
  • Nuremberg (Nurnberg, Germany Bavaria)

AmaSonata last position

AmaSonata last location was at Europe Inland (coordinates 49.23500 N / 11.14666 E) cruising en route to NURNBERG. The AIS position was reported 6 hours ago.

Current itinerary of AmaSonata

AmaSonata current cruise is 7 days, one-way from Nuremberg to Budapest . Prices start from USD 3750 (double occupancy rates). The itinerary starts on 19 Jun, 2024 and ends on 26 Jun, 2024 .

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AmaSonata cruise ship

AmaSonata has a total of 85 cabins (of which 5 Suite, 51 Twin Balcony, 10 French Balconies, 19 with a not-opening window) in 9 grades. The exclusive Twin Balconies are available in most of the staterooms, measuring the spacious 235 sq.feet. Four suites are available of 350 sq.feet each.

Cabins Types/Categories (number, location), high to low

  • Suites - STE (x3, deck3), sizes 350ft2/33m2
  • Large Balcony Staterooms - AP (x1, deck3) - sizes 250ft2/23m2
  • Twin Balcony Staterooms - AA (x11, deck3), AB (x10, deck2), BA (x10, deck3), BB (x15, deck2) - size AA/AB (235ft2/22m2), BB 210ft2/19m2.
  • French Balcony Staterooms - C (x16, decks2&3) - sizes 170ft2/16m2.
  • RiverView Staterooms - D (x13, deck1), E (x4, deck1), sizes 160ft2/15m2.

Shipboard facilities

Guests can have gourmet dining and free-flowing wines at the multiple dining venues. Ship's restaurants include Verde (dining room), Bella Cucina (Italian), Chef’s Table (tasting menu), Wine Bar (private), Sun Deck (alfresco). The culinary creations of Chaîne des Rôtisseurs are served in the Chef's Table restaurant or in the main dining room. On select days, passengers can enjoy their lunch on the Sun Deck.

The Sun Deck also provides lounge chairs, a heated pool and Jacuzzi, swim-up bar, as well as bicycles and a walking track. The Violin Deck shelters Erlebnis Chef’s Table, the Observation Lounge and Main Lounge & Bar, as well as the Al Fresco Bistro, gift shop, library, fitness, sauna and Hair Salon. Another Wine Bar is located on the Cello Deck. AmaSonata also has giant chess, putting green, 1 elevator (passenger lift).

AmaSonata cruise deals are inclusive of the Internet (and Wi-Fi), all tours/excursions (including on bikes), ground transfers, live evening entertainment (local performers), daily enrichment lectures, food and wine tastings, 24-hour coffee/tea, replenished daily bottled water.

AmaSonata river cruise prices are per person and based on double occupancy. These are only indicative AMA cruise rates. They might be different when you book your AmaWaterways AmaSonata cruise tour deals, influenced by travel agency promotions, special offers and discounts, group travel booking or last-minute deals rates. On AmaSonata cruises, AmaWaterways lines offer discount airfare travel deals on major airlines (without charging Flight Deviation fees).

River Cruise Itineraries

Follows the list of AmaWaterways ship AmaSonata river cruise itineraries as themes:

  • "MELODIES OF THE DANUBE" and "BLUE DANUBE DISCOVERY" are 12-days (sailing 7 days) Danube river cruises from Budapest to Prague (Vilshofen disembarkation, inclusive of 2-night Prague luxury hotel package). There are 7 optional and 10 complimentary land tours/excursions included.
  • "ROMANTIC DANUBE" is a 12-days (sailing 7 days) river cruise from Nurnberg to Budapest and the reverse from Budapest to Prague (Vilshofen embarkation /disembarkation). It additionally includes a 3-night Prague luxury hotel package.
  • "MAGNIFICENT EUROPE" is a 16-days (sailing 15 days) Rhine-Main-Danube river cruise from Budapest to Amsterdam, and the reverse from Amsterdam to Budapest. There are 5 optional and 16 complimentary land tours/excursions) included.
  • "TREASURES OF MAIN AND RHINE" segment (themed "Christmas Markets") is a 11-days (sailing 7 days) Rhine and Danube cruise from Prague to Amsterdam, and the reverse from Amsterdam to Prague (Nuremberg disembarkation /embarkation). There are 3 optional and 7 complimentary land tours/excursions, plus a 2-night Prague hotel package included.
  • "ENCHANTING RHINE” is a 13-days (sailing 7 days) Rhine river cruise from Zurich to Amsterdam, and the reverse from Amsterdam to Zurich (Basel disembarkation /embarkation). There are 4 optional and 8 complimentary land tours/excursions, plus a 2-night Lucerne hotel package included.
  • "TULIP TIME” are 7-days Belgium and Holland river cruises from Amsterdam (round-trip) with 3 optional and 7 complimentary land tours/excursions included in the fares.

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The APT AmaSonata boat is the 6th among the newest generation AMA river cruise ships of the Concerto-class, with sisterships AmaBella ,  AmaCerto ,  AmaPrima ,  AmaReina , AmaSerena , AmaVerde , AmaVenita . This is a new APT river cruise boat design featuring the "Twin Balcony" accommodations concept. It combines the traditional French Balcony with a second covered open-air verandah for all-weather use. Each of these riverboats is powered by two "Caterpillar" marine diesel engines (model "C32 DITA ACERT" V-12, total power output 1900 kW / 2550 HP).

Vessel's construction (hull and superstructure) was done at the Vahali Shipyard in Belgrade Serbia . The 1923-founded Dutch shipbuilding company (Scheepswerf En Machinefabriek Vahali BV) owns and operates yards in Serbia (Belgrade, and Zasavica) and in Holland (Gendt). Vahali Shipyard Zasavica was officially opened in 2013. Following the construction in Serbia, the AmaSonata ship was towed to Holland for final outfitting at Scheepswerf Vahali (Gendt).

The AMA cruise ship Sonata was launched in 2014 on July 24th. It was christened in Vilshofen (Germany) by Mrs Brenda Kyllo - National VP of "CAA Travel". The "Canadian Automobile Association" has several million members and 104 clubs across Canada providing Emergency Roadside-, Auto-, Travel- and Insurance services.

All AMAwaterways ships provide complimentary bicycles (stored on the boat's sundeck) on shore excursions/tours in each port along the cruise itineraries.

Note: You can see the CruiseMapper's list of all river cruise ships and riverboats in the "itinerary" section of our  River Cruises  hub. All companies and their fleets are listed there.

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Amasonata Overview

Designed with soft colors, and ideal for relaxation, AmaSonata is one of the best ways to cruise down the rivers of Europe. Featured in most staterooms on board are AmaWaterways' twin balconies, which gives passengers the option of a French or traditional balcony by simply equipping rooms with both options. This allows guests to enjoy the scenic banks from the comfort of their luxurious stateroom. The luxury continues with the white table cloths and 5-star cuisine at The Chef's Table, where an open kitchen puts you in the middle of the action while your meal is prepared. For more information on AmaWaterways' AmaSonata, please call The Cruise Web today at 1-800-377-9383 and speak with one of our expert consultants!

  • Passenger Capacity: 162 (double occupancy)
  • Year Built: 2014

Twin Balconies aboard AmaSonata

  • Twin Balconies Many staterooms aboard AmaSonata feature twin balconies, allowing guests the option of stepping outside or enjoying the scenery from inside their stateroom.  

Sun Deck Pool aboard AmaSonata

  • Sun Deck Pool Enjoy the heated pool and swim-up bar on the Sun Deck, where you can relax as the scenic riverbanks of Europe float past.  

Walking Track aboard AmaSonata

  • Walking Track Head up to the Sun Deck to work out, or take an after-dinner stroll to catch the sunset.  

Onboard Bicycles aboard AmaSonata

  • Onboard Bicycles AmaWaterways is dedicated to immersing guests in their destination, so AmaSonata is equipped with a full fleet of bicycles, which guests are encouraged to use in port (complimentary).  

Main Lounge aboard AmaSonata

  • Main Lounge Kick back after a long day of biking through your destination and enjoy a drink, good company and the sounds of a baby grand piano.  

Amasonata Cruise Destinations

From the castles, cathedrals and vineyards of Europe, to the temples, gardens and terraced fields of Southeast Asia, AmaWaterways River Cruise Line delivers a luxurious, immersive river cruise experience. AmaWaterways’ itineraries are designed to allow guests the opportunity to explore both the popular sites and out-of-the-way gems, and the line’s experienced guides and choice of included excursions will give you the ability to spend time where you most desire. Whether it be navigating the picturesque canals of Amsterdam, cycling along the Rhine, wandering Monet’s garden in Giverny, making friends with monks in a historic abbey, sampling Portugal’s wines or just walking the fairytale streets in one village after the next, AmaWaterways will continual deliver rich destination experiences throughout your voyage. Continue below to learn more about the destinations visited by AmaWaterways:

Amasonata Europe Cruise Destination

Centuries old castles, thousands of years of history and some of the best regional cuisine await you on your AmaWaterways river cruise in Europe.

Amasonata Departure Ports

AmaWaterways river cruises depart from incredible cities in Europe, Asia and Africa, offering convenient—and luxurious—access to new cultures, historic towns and scenic landscapes. AmaWaterway’s European river itineraries depart from cities like Amsterdam, Basel, Bordeaux, Budapest, Lyon, Nuremberg, Paris and Porto, just to name a few. For more exotic river escapes, you could depart from Cape Town, Ho Chi Minh City or Kampong Cham. For many of these departure ports, which are worthy destinations themselves, you even have the option to add pre-cruise extensions to see even more of Europe, Asia or Africa and get an earlier jump on your vacation! Continue below to view the current departure ports for AmaWaterways’ river cruises, and call 1-800-377-9383 to speak with one of our experience cruise consultants to start planning today.

Amasonata Budapest, Hungary Departure Port

Budapest, Hungary

With striking architecture, Budapest is a beauty both above ground and underneath, where the city has a network of caves and thermal springs.

Amasonata Vienna, Austria Departure Port

Vienna, Austria

Vienna is a bustling city filled with amazing history from the Habsburg Empire. The city is also filled with music, with everything from contemporary sounds to the historical sounds of Mozart and Beethoven.

Amasonata Nuremberg, Germany Departure Port

Nuremberg, Germany

Filled with history at every turn, Nuremberg has always been an important city in Germany and one you don’t want to miss out on when river cruising through Germany.

Amasonata Vilshofen, Germany Departure Port

Vilshofen, Germany

Surrounded by water, Vilshofen is a charming, old-world city with a bustling art scene and a variety of festivals.

Amasonata Deck Plans

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Amasonata Balcony Stateroom

Balcony (AA)

French balcony, outside balcony, bathroom with shower, in room safe, spacious wardrobe, Internet access, Flat-screen Televisions, desk/dressing table, floor to ceiling mirror.

Amasonata Balcony Stateroom

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Amasonata Balcony Stateroom

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Amasonata Balcony Stateroom

Balcony (BB)

French balcony, outside balcony, bathroom with shower, in room safe, spacious wardrobe, Internet access, Flat-screen Televisions, desk/dressing table.

Balcony (AA+)

French balcony, outside balcony, large window.

Amasonata Inside Stateroom

Fixed windows, safe, spacious wardrobe, flat screen TV, internet access,k desk/dressing table.

Amasonata Inside Stateroom

French balcony, safe, spacious wardrobe, flat screen TV, internet access,k desk/dressing table.

Amasonata Suite Stateroom

French Balcony & Outside Balcony

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Browse our AmaWaterways image library, which offers a glimpse into the river cruise line’s amenities, experiences and destinations. Keeping in mind that this is merely a sample of the luxurious benefits of cruising with AmaWaterways, continue through our photo gallery to see what sets AmaWaterways river cruises apart from other vacations!

A balcony on the AmaSonata

A balcony on the AmaSonata

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AmaSonata ship exterior

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Reception area on the AmaSonata

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Fitness room onboard the AmaSonata

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The Main Restaurant on AmaSonata

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  • AmaSonata 7 night Melodies of the Danube (A Taste of Christmas Markets) Departing From Budapest, Hungary (Dec 2024 - Dec 2026)

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Best of Moscow by high speed train

By shuguley , February 15, 2014 in Regent Seven Seas Cruises

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.

Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?

My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

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If you are considering this on the 2015 June Baltic cruise on Voyager; my suggestion is don't. There is so much to do in St. Petersburg and although a train is one of my favorite ways to travel the time would be far better spent in St. P.

Thanks for the advice. Yes, this would be on the Voyager during the 2015 season but not yet sure exactly which cruise.

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We did the Moscow excursion "on a different luxury line", but from your brief description it sounds very much like the same trip, so I will operate on that assumption. It is a VERY long day! We left the ship at 5:30 AM and returned at 12:30 AM. The highspeed train trip is comfortable, and while they call it "Business Class" it does not compare well to the equivalent class on say Rail Europe. When we did it in 2011, we did have highspeed both ways, and the trip back seemed much longer as the adrenaline and excitement had worn off!:D

Moscow itself is not that terribly different from any other big city in the world, but this Cold War kid never thought he would ever stand in Red Square, never mind walk the grounds of The Kremlin, or tour The Kremlin Palace, or see (but not visit) Lenin's Tomb, or visit The Armoury. But he did, and he loved every minute of it! Yes, it is a long day, and you barely scratch a scratch on the surface, but it is worth it. There is a tremendous amount to see in St. Petersburg, but every Baltic cruise goes to St. Petersburg, so you can go back if you choose to. Not every cruiseline offers you the chance to see Moscow.


I have not personally done this tour, but our last time in St Petersburg, the private guide that we hired for a day was leading the regent tour to Moscow on the high speed train the next day. He said it was way better than the previous alternative, which was flying to Moscow and back. He said that you actually got to Moscow faster because you didn't have to deal with airline checkin etc. it did seem like a very long day to me, and there is so much to see and do in st. Petersburg that I didn't consider doing it.



We toured to Moscow from St. Petersburg via the hi-speed SAPSAN train last September, from a Baltic cruise on the Oceania Marina. You need to have a two-night, three day port call in St. Petersburg to take this tour because the tour typically leaves the ship around 5:00 - 5:30 AM and doesn't return until after midnight the next day. We didn't take the ship's tour; we made private arrangements with TravelAllRussia for three days of touring, the first and third days in St. Petersburg and the second day the tour to Moscow by train. Our cost for the private tour for three days was about the same as what the ship charged for the excursion to Moscow alone. There are a number of private tour agencies that operate in St. Petersburg and offer the Moscow train tours; we would strongly recommend them over the ship's tours.

All three days had private guides with car and driver. The second day, the driver picked us up at the ship and took us to the train, but we were alone on the train, and met in Moscow by the guide on the station platform. After our tour and dinner, we were brought back to the train and after the return train trip met by the driver and taken back to the ship. Because you are alone on the train you must have your own Russian visas.

If this is your first visit to St. Petersburg, I would agree there is much more to see there. We found Moscow somewhat a disappointment, particularly Red Square. The Kremlin and the cathedral in Red Square were also worth seeing. But the best thing we saw was the Moscow subway! I worked for the Washington Metro system back in the 1980s as it grew from 40 to 80 miles and although I was in the computer area, I learned a lot about the challenges of running a subway system. We used the Moscow system to get across the city from where we had dinner to the train station, and I was amazed at the cleanliness', speed of operation, the short headways maintained, and the courtesy of everyone involved. A very impressive experience!

We had been to St. Petersburg before, and so had the time to take a day and go to Moscow. Also, I really like trains, and the SAPSAN is a German train set running on Russian rails. Seats are like first class domestic air, spacious but not too plush or comfortable, but with enough room. Not too much recline, and almost 8 hours on the train in two shots is a lot for an old man. They come through and sell drinks, candy, etc. but the sellers don't speak English and no one around us helped, so we had just poor coffee once coming, and brought stuff with us for the trip back. Not too much to see from the train either, particularly on the return when it is night the whole way.

If you decide to go, take a private tour and avoid the overly expensive ship's tour. I'm glad we did it, but wouldn't bother to repeat the tour; we've seen Moscow.

Thanks so much to all of you for the thorough and thought insight. Yhe information you have provided is most helpful.

countflorida: Your detailed post is very helpful. We are not quite ready for a Baltic cruise but should do so within a year. Time enough to do our pre travel research, bookings and visa gathering.:) Thank you!

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.   Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?   My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

I did this on Seabourn. IMO DONT. Take Aeroflop (er Aeroflot). The train has non folding seats where you are literally knee to knee with your fellow passenger (facing each other). Further they don't believe in air conditioning. It's also the worlds slowed bullet train. I think I would have found more enjoyment wandering around the St. Petersburg and Moscow airports.


This is a little off topic,, however we had planned a river cruise in Russia but decided we would rather stay on land and have booked about two weeks with Travel-All-Russia using the private guide and driver. I'm curious as to how you found them as a tour company.

The guides they provided were fine. We had a different guide each of the days in St. Petersburg, but both were flexible, pleasant, knowledgeable and spoke English very well, as did the guide in Moscow, incidentally. She was a bit aloof, distant, not too friendly, but otherwise fine. In fact, she was the one who suggested taking the Metro, which unexpectedly became one of the highlights of the Moscow excursion. If I have a complaint with AllTravelRussia, it is with their plan and its execution (more later).

I had requested emphasis on World War II (in Russia, the Great Patriotic War) sites and info. In scheduling us, they weren't careful about dates and a couple of the sites we wanted to see were scheduled on the third day, after we'd been to Moscow. But both sites were closed that day of the week, and that info was readily available, right on web sites describing them. Also, the included meals (lunches in St. Pete, dinner in Moscow) were not what we asked for: light meals with some choices, so we could avoid things we didn't like and choose things we did like. My request was ignored; we were given full Russian meals with a fixed menu, no choice. On the first day, a fish dish was the entre, but I am allergic to fish. Fortunately, I had the e-mail I'd sent with me and showed it to the guide, and she was able to change my entre to chicken, which was very good actually. But we didn't want a 3-4 course lunches or dinner (in Moscow). We had the guide drop the lunch the third day, although we never got any credit or refund. But, particularly in contrast to the ship's tours, the prices were so reasonable we didn't worry too much about it.

The people who were on the ship's tour to Moscow saw us boarding the same train for which they were forced to queue up and wait on the way back, and asked us what we had done. I was candid and open so they were not happy when I explained what we had arranged and particularly what it had cost. Also, when we returned to the ship, we found they had laid on a late supper for those who had gone to Moscow, so up we went and had something. Well, it turns out the late supper was supposed to be just for those on the ship's tour, but we and others on 'independent' tours, there were a dozen or more of us, crashed the party, actually got there first, and they didn't realize it until the larger group arrived and there weren't enough tables/places set. By that time, the 'independents' had all gotten served and were eating; what could they do?

A couple from the larger group sat down with us and asked us about our tour, and they were the ones I told about our arrangement and its cost. They turned to others who’d been with them and announced the details, loudly enough so the whole room heard, which started a lot of bitching and complaining. I gathered they weren't very happy with the ship's tour to begin with, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. We finished up and beat it out of there, but overheard later that one of the excursion staff came to check on something and ran into a real mess. I caught a cold on the trip, which forced me to bed the second day following in Tallinn, so by the time we reappeared we heard about the contretemps' but apparently no one recalled who started it, thankfully.

Because of what happened to us, I would probably not use AllTravelRussia if I were to go again, or if I did, I would be sure to get confirmation of every detail of the tour. They do have good reviews generally, and we were certainly helped by their visa department and liked the guides and drivers. Their weakness, I say now with full 20:20 hindsight, is that once the sales person who plans the tour, sells it to you and collects your money, he (or she) transfers the plan to their Russia office for implementation; there is no follow-up to make sure it gets done right. And that is where our problems arose; we paid for a custom tour but got a standard package with a few destinations switched, and no one checked them out, even to see when they were open the day we were scheduled to go. If you check every detail that’s important to you, it should be OK, but that’s a hell of a way to have to do business, in my opinion.

Thank you for the 20/20 hindsight observation on your Russian tour operator, and better priced than the ship's excursion cost.

Thanks very much for the feedback.

We had the same experience as you so far as price. We originally booked a Viking Cruise but, hearing some things about the river cruises that made us unhappy, looked into other options. T-A-R cost the same or less than a cruise and had us in hotels for 11 days. We opted for the private tour. They have three tour levels, based on hotels. We originally opted for the four star as it did not cost much more than the three star hotels. Finally we decided to throw it all in and upgraded to five star. In Moscow we will be at the newly opened Kempinsky which is two blocks from Red Square. In St. Petersburg it is the Grand Hotel Europe, one of the most vaunted luxury hotels in Russia. Location is important for us as the tours use up only part of the day so being in the center of everything for our independent touring is important. As with many other cities, the less you pay, the farther out of the center of town you are.

We have been working with our salesman in D.C. and he seems to get back to us with the changes we want. He recently returned from Russia so is up on everything. When I asked they said they paid the full TA commission if I wanted so I got my usual TA on board so he is watching our back and giving us that extra level of comfort. He also set up our air, which I know pays him little or nothing, and got us business class for much less than T-A-R wanted for economy, though it took working for a while with a consolidator. He's happy to get his 10 percent on this trip without having booked it. He also took care of the trip insurance. We've been doing a lot of research on the CC sister site Trip Advisor and will write a report there. We will, I guess, become a source of info for CC members after having spent 5 days in Moscow and 6 in SP.

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Anybody considering a day trip to Moscow from St. Petersburg on the Sapsan may want to look at our travelogue filled with pictures.



Very informative. Thanks dor sharing. Jeff

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