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While your Dodge Journey’s engine mounts can last the life of the entire vehicle, it is possible that they will go bad.  Vibration and a clunking sound are the two most noticeable symptoms when driving the vehicle.  There are plenty of visible signs as well.

Engine mounts connect the engine to the frame of the Journey.  They also provide vibration dampening.  It is essential to the operation of the vehicle that they are working properly.  If you have bad motor mounts , it’s usually pretty obvious.

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1. Dodge Journey Bad Engine Mount Symptoms Vibration Clunking Sound Moving Engine 2. Journey Bad Motor Mount Diagnosis Drooping Exhaust Leak Broken Belts or Hoses Visible Motor Damage 3. Causes Collision Time Bad Mount 4. How Long Should a Motor Mount Last 5. Conclusion/Summary

Bad Engine Mount Symptoms:  Dodge Journey

The job of the motor mounts is to keep your Journey from rattling to death, while keeping the engine in the engine bay. All of the symptoms of a bad motor mount are going to be related to vibration, and the motor moving from it’s proper location. That being said, here are the three most common symptoms of a bad motor mount.  They usually happen in stages.

Stage 1: Vibrations

The most noticeable symptom of a motor mount that is going bad is vibration. That is, more vibration than you would typically feel when you are driving your Journey.  You’ll know when it’s happening.  It may not necessarily feel like the vehicle is going to rattle apart, but it’s very noticeable. 

This is the most prominent symptom of a bad engine mount, and the first one that you’ll typically notice. If it is left alone long enough, it’ll lead to hard clunking sounds, which we’ll cover next ↓ .

Stage 2: Clunking

An engine mount that has gone bad will begin to exhibit a clunking sound. This sound will be most noticeable when putting your Journey in and out of gear, when the engine shifts, as well as when you accelerate or de-accelerate abruptly.

This clunking comes from the mount being worn and having enough play to move when the force suddenly changes. This clunking may be accompanied by, or lead to full on engine movement ↓ .

Stage 3: Engine Movement

If you are driving and you feel the engine banging around, that’s a sure indication that a motor mount has failed.  Really, you shouldn’t drive a vehicle with a motor mount clunking or even vibrating.  If you hear and feel the engine rolling around, it’s time to stop driving and have the motor mounts replaced immediately.  It’s going to cause all sorts of collateral damage in there.

Bad Motor Mount Diagnosis:  Dodge Journey

Dodge Journey Bad Engine Mount Diagnosis

You can inspect the motor mounts and look to see if they have any free play.  If you take a look at your Journey’s engine as it goes in and out of gear, it is normal to observe some movement of the engine as it torques one way or the other.  It is not normal for it to make a clunking noise, or move excessively.  It is very difficult to tell that a motor mount is bad just by looking at it. That’s why it’s better to look for the signs of a bad motor mount, than to look at the mounts themselves.

Here are some ways of telling if your engine mount is bad just by looking for signs.

One of the best ways that you can tell that you have a bad motor mount is if it is drooping to one side.  An engine is meant to be level.  If it is tipping in any one direction, that is a very strong indication that you have a bad motor mount.

Exhaust Leak

As your engine moves around the engine bay, it can cause an exhaust leak .  Exhaust leaks are pretty easy to distinguish.  A pinging or knocking sound coming from the exhaust is typical.  This happens because there’s not a lot of free play in the exhaust, so when it’s stressed, it’ll crack or blow a gasket.

Broken Hoses or Belts

There isn’t a lot of extra room in the modern engine compartment, which means that things can easily get cut or broken when they move.  This is exactly what can happen to hoses and belts when a motor mount fails.  A broken radiator hose can quickly cause a lot of damage if it runs your Journey out of coolant .

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Obvious Engine Damage

If you see their engine is damaged, and that there’s some corresponding damage on the frame, that is a telltale sign that you have a bad motor mount.

Why an Engine Mount Goes Bad

There are many reasons why your Dodge Journey could end up with a bad motor mount.  Here are the most common ones:

Collision Damage

One of the most common reasons that a motor mount will fail is when it gets damaged in an accident. Even if it’s a minor fender bender, that will often be enough to cause some serious damage to the mount.  That’s why even if you are in an accident and it’s not that bad, it’s always a good idea to take it into an alignment shop.  You should really take it to a mechanic and have them take a look and make sure there’s nothing else wrong.

Time/mileage

If you put enough mileage on a vehicle everything will eventually break. The motor mounts are no exception to that. This is particularly true because most motor mounts have rubber bushings. They will dry and crack as they age even without mileage being put on the vehicle. Some motor mounts are liquid filled. This provides great vibration dampening, but when they go bad they do it in a hurry. You can usually tell when one has gone bad, because they will be leaking fluid onto the frame. It’ll look like your engine mounts have an oil leak.

Poor Quality Mount

If your car has recently been in an accident, the motor mounts may have been replaced. But, that doesn’t mean that they were replaced properly. That’s why it’s important to find a good shop whenever you have a major repair done.

How Long Should Motor Mounts Last?

There’s no perfect answer to this question. It’s going to depend a lot on how often you drive, whether or not the vehicle’s ever been in a collision, and what the motor mount is made out of.  The best thing that you can do is have them looked at whenever you’re getting your vehicle serviced. Although, you should reasonably expect it to last for at least seven years.

Conclusion: Journey Bad Engine Mount Symptoms

Good luck finding out what’s going on with your Dodge Journey. Just remember while bad motor mounts are common, there can be other causes that would make your vehicle vibrate. It can be something as simple as a misfiring engine.  Although, you should get some sort of trouble code if that were the case. 

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Journey on the Trans-Siberian: Moscow to Yekaterinburg

This is the second part of a series about my trip across Russia on the Trans-Siberian Railway in the summer of 2018. I’ll cover the overnight ride from St Petersburg to Moscow, the 16 hours I spent in the Russian capital, and the two-day ride from Moscow to Yekaterinburg.

The route of my trip along the Trans-Siberian Railway, from St Petersburg to Vladivostok.

After a few days in St Petersburg I boarded the overnight train to Moscow. The sleeper train “Red Arrow” departs at 11:55pm. I read (but didn’t confirm) the departure time was set in Soviet times to leave before midnight so travelers could get reimbursed for two working days.

The “Red Arrow” train to Moscow train leaves St Petersburg at 11:55pm sharp.

There were three people already in the cabin when I walked in: In one of the top bunks was a girl who looked 20-something, and on the two bottom bunks, two Brazilian men who looked like soccer fans. (It was World Cup summer.)

We exchanged muted hello’s and filled out our breakfast order forms. Without wasting time I followed the process of settling into an overnight cabin:

  • Examine and unpack the supplied bedding.
  • Make the bed.
  • If foreigners are in the cabin, motion to them to follow your lead.
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  • Return when appropriate, and begin smalltalk to spark a deep and cross-cultural conversation that’ll grow richer and bring you closer together with every mile of track until the morning golden hour.

Except the Brazilian men didn’t speak English, and the girl, probably on-guard, remained silent. I went to sleep.

Carpeted hallway of the second-class car.

It wasn’t the rocking that stirred me awake every hour, but the impressive guttural symphony coming from the man below me. The snores came in different tones and rhythms, transforming mid-breath with no particular pattern, which made them difficult to ignore. (A few days later, Tatiana, another cabin-mate, refuted my story by telling me sound doesn’t travel upwards. “Then he cheated physics,” I said.) I forced my earplugs deeper and felt relief that this is only a seven-hour trip.

By morning the Brazilians still didn’t speak English but the girl was more inviting. She’s a mother of two—which surprised me—and was headed to Moscow for a meditation seminar. I made whatever smalltalk I could fit between bites of fried cheese fritters until we arrived in Moscow.

It was early morning, and my first objective was to find a quiet part of the city where I can rest until some nearby coffeeshop opens. I took the metro to the nearest patch of green on Google Maps—a park called “Clean Ponds.”

Metro station “Clean Ponds” in Moscow.

The only available bench was next to a group of Russian men still drinking from the night before. One of the men was slumped over, another was drying in the sun after taking a dip in the pond, another was throwing fists at the wet one, and the rest were fighting to stay upright—only because it’s easier to keep drinking when upright. I decided against napping, and instead enjoyed the scene unfolding to my left.

A woman approached and sat next to me, holding her small dog, and complained about the park’s occupants. Following a light conversation, she lit a cigarette, told me about her (deceased) husband’s medical invention, and proposed I introduce the product to the US market in return for a cut of the profits. She did this while parrying advances from one of the men. (“I have a job and own an apartment in a good location, behind the McDonald’s,” he said.) She gave me her phone number before leaving, probably dreaming of business ventures in America that will not happen.

My inebriated bench neighbors.

When the woman left, the party group noticed me. “Where the f— did you come from?!” one of them said. I was prepared to give (and take) a few hits and run, but managed to ease the tension with some jokes and handshakes.

I gave up on rest and went in search of coffee and breakfast.

Irina and Red Square

Saint Basil’s Cathedral at the Red Square in Moscow.

Irina is a lawyer living in Moscow who’s trying to improve her English. We met on a language-learning website, and arranged to meet in person to walk through the Red Square and practice English/Russian.

The Red Square was staged for the World Cup and crowded with tourists. It felt like the Russian version of Times Square, which I found intolerable. I snapped some shots and hurried us to lunch.

We found a Georgian restaurant just off the main boulevard and spent the next hour chatting about Russia’s legal system, language exams, graduate school, and how long could it possibly take to cook chicken.

In 2007 I was supposed to visit St Petersburg aboard my college’s training ship. My cousin warned me I should brush up on my Russian: “We have smart relatives there, don’t embarrass yourself.” I searched for Russians to chat with online and found Polina.

We spoke every other day in the months leading up to my voyage that summer. I started to like her. We made unrealistic plans for her to travel from Moscow to St Petersburg to meet me for the few days I’d be there. It never happened. Just days before my ship’s scheduled arrival, the captain diverted us to Estonia after failing to get the proper docking permits or visas for Russia. Polina and I exchanged only a few emails over the next decade.

This time, the plan worked.

We met and crisscrossed the Moskva river over bridges as we spoke of life in Russia, her newborn son, traveling, her dreams of returning to freelancing, the things we still do and those we don’t… I don’t remember where we walked or what we passed.

Is this what Captain Smith made me miss? I imagined myself at 19, and Polina getting permission from her mom to take the overnight train to St Petersburg, and my needing to return to the ship by midnight, and maybe ending up like my shipmate and the Croatian girl he fell in love with on the first day in port in Dubrovnik…

The thought made me happy but also underscored the passage of time. We were far from 19, and we both found love on native soil, and she became a mom, and I had to catch the train to Yekaterinburg before midnight.

Polina and me in Moscow.

After saying goodbye to Polina, it was time for the next segment of the Trans-Siberian Railway: A one-and-a-half-day ride to Yekaterinburg. I stocked up on ramen noodles and tea, and made my way to the train.

Typical four-person cabin in the second-class car.

Riding the Trans-Siberian Railway is interesting for two reasons: The train itself, and the people on it. Life aboard the train doesn’t differ much from one segment to another, so I will write a separate article of observations and survival tips learned throughout the entire trip.

The people, however, did change with each segment. On this segment from Moscow to Yekaterinburg, as urban sprawl gave way to dense forests and wooden villages, I got to know a family from the Far North.

View of the Russian countryside.

Tatiana, Nastia, and Sasha

My roommates for the 27-hour trip from Moscow to Yekaterinburg were Tatiana and her two children, Nastia and Sasha.

Within minutes of departure I took off my shoes to get comfortable and waited for the hallway activity to calm down before preparing for bed. Tatiana, somehow sensing my inexperience with long-distance train travel, pointed at the blue disposable slippers that came with the provided bedding and gently suggested I put them on. I thought they were silly and not for someone who’s used to rough traveling, so I responded that I’m alright in my socks. She tried to convince me a bit longer before giving up.

Moments later, I went to the bathroom—there’s one at each end of every car—and learned they’re just like airplane bathrooms: small and wet, and you don’t know from what . I returned to the cabin, changed my socks, and donned the blue disposable slippers. Tatiana looked on with approval.

Disposable slippers are provided to all passengers.

They were traveling from their small military town near the Russia-Finland border (where her husband is stationed) to Novosibirsk — over 3,000 miles away — to visit her parents, as they do every summer. Airfare would cost them three months’ worth of income (by my own calculation), so they took the train, like many Russian families traveling to or from Siberia.

Our conversations spanned life in Russia, life in the US, Nastia’s college ambitions (she’s undecided between medicine and chemistry), traveling (because of the husband’s position in the military, the family is not allowed to travel outside of Russia), drawing, Russian literature, and more… We talked without end for two days while sharing food and drinking tea by the liter.

Nastia, me, Tatiana, and Sasha

Tatiana teaches literature and Russian at their local school. She told me about life inside the arctic circle and showed me photos of polar lights, fields of flowers, her shirtless husband stepping out of a bania (a Russian sauna) and jumping into the snow, and other everyday scenes. She worried about what will happen after her husband’s military contract ends next year. She’ll miss Nastia when she stays behind in Novosibirsk for one final year of school and then university.

Tatiana also worried about my safety. She advised me to tell people I’m a local: “Your Russian is good enough,” she said, “that people will believe you and assume that your slight accent and slower pace is due to—” and she raised her fingers to her temple and did a twisting gesture. I nodded, thought for a moment, and decided that was a compliment.

Nastia drew matryoshka dolls in my journal.

Nastia is a straight-A student interested in chemistry and medicine. She’s not sure which of the two she’ll study in university, but she has another year to decide. She’ll stay with her grandparents in a small village outside of the city for another year until it’s time to attend Novosibirsk University. Although she studied english in school for several years, she never felt comfortable enough to speak it. (The faculty at their local school is made up of military spouses with little or no teaching experience.)

Nastia earns money on the side by painting custom designs on her clients’ nails. Her designs—from cartoon characters to landscapes to sunsets, all painted on half-inch-wide keratin canvases—are remarkable and belong in high-end nail salons of New York. I offered her some advice based on my consulting experience (she should charge more for more the elaborate designs). Her entrepreneurial spirit made me happy for her, maybe because it reminded me of my teenage years when I drew cartoons for money.

Sasha drew whatever he wanted in my journal.

Sasha is just beginning to learn English, and this was his first encounter with a native speaker. He was nowhere near conversational English, so he engaged the only way he could: shouting out Russian words from his language workbook to see if I could respond with the right translation. “How do you say, um, ‘lion?’” he asked, and looked at me with a wide smile and alert eyes, waiting to hear a word that matched his notes. “Give Greg a break,” Tatiana said, more than once, after many animals were correctly translated, but I gave Sasha an approving smile to signal it’s alright. “Crocodile!?” he continued…

A sunset over hills of Russia, seen through the train’s thick windows.

The next day, as the train approached Yekaterinburg in the early morning, I nudged Tatiana and Nastia awake to say “goodbye,” as they requested the night before, when we exchanged longer goodbyes and I told them how wonderful it was to meet and spend time with them. “Goodbye, Greg,” they replied, and both gave me a smile that I didn’t expect from anyone whose sleep was interrupted, who’s been on the road for weeks, who wouldn’t see her daughter (or mother) for a year, whose future was so uncertain… And still they smiled in the way that only good people do.

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